1 00:00:01,020 --> 00:00:03,020 Equidox by Onix 2 00:00:03,679 --> 00:00:08,239 Reach everyone. Thank you everyone who is currently on the call. Thank you for joining 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,859 My name is Dan Tuleta. I'm a sales engineer for Equidox. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,920 I may have met several of you in the past either events or on training calls 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,439 But the reason we called this webinar today was to take a little bit of a deeper dive 6 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:27,519 Into our new list detection technology that we've recently added to the to the platform 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:34,000 So there might be a mix of existing customers and users on this call or potentially people that are interested 8 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:36,079 to learn more about Equidox 9 00:00:36,239 --> 00:00:40,878 But it occurred to us that many people might not have seen the new list detection tool in action 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,000 since your previous demos or trainings that you may have seen. 11 00:00:46,559 --> 00:00:47,360 So we wanted to make sure that we are 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,919 Are supporting all of our users and making sure that everyone understands how to use the new tool correctly. 13 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:58,799 So with that said I'm going to jump into this document here, which has some different examples that we can take a look at. 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:05,839 And I believe that Tammy will be collecting. some questions. We're going to try to get to questions if we have time 15 00:01:06,479 --> 00:01:08,559 There are going to be many people on this call 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,839 so it might be difficult to answer every single one 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:17,680 What we do ask though is if you just type it into the Q&A part of the ZOOM platform there. 18 00:01:18,159 --> 00:01:24,879 We will consolidate all these questions and potentially put out like a frequently asked questions document 19 00:01:25,340 --> 00:01:25,840 to just make sure that every question is being answered. 20 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,840 Also with that said, 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,919 we will be available for follow-up questions and discussions and if you need 22 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:36,400 to schedule a quick call with me just to ask a specific question or go over anything 23 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,559 That you've been experiencing in using the new List Detection Tool 24 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,839 Please feel free to reach out to us at EquidoxSales@Onixnet.com. 25 00:01:46,479 --> 00:01:50,798 Or, many of you have the direct email to either an account manager 26 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,159 or you can submit questions through our website as well. 27 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,399 Okay. So with that said, 28 00:01:56,399 --> 00:01:58,718 We are now in the Equidox platform 29 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,920 And Ii'm looking here at a three-page document that just contains several lists for us to work on. 30 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:07,839 So i'm going to start here on this first page and we are just going to take a look 31 00:02:08,319 --> 00:02:15,919 at the uh, at some simple stuff first just to make sure that everyone understands the basic functionality of the new list detection tool 32 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:17,440 so 33 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:24,399 Uh, on this page, we have a few very simple lists here. Just three standard list items marked with bullet points. 34 00:02:24,959 --> 00:02:32,159 So with the old list technology, you might remember different text zones layered inside of the list zone. 35 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,599 Sort of tedious and clunky to deal with, still not very difficult to use. 36 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,679 We had a big blue detect button to automatically detect those items, but we're doing things a little bit differently now. 37 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:51,120 So what we're doing is still marking the individual zone that is wrapped around the entire list. We're still marking that as a list zone 38 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,319 By changing the zone type in the drop-down menu 39 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:59,440 We still have that green bar that many of you might remember from the old list detection tool 40 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:05,839 And if we just place that list, that green bar, on top of the bullet points or whatever the list labels may be... 41 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:08,799 They might be dashes. They might be numbers. They might be letters... 42 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:14,239 We just place that green bar on top and then we have a new list detection slider down here. 43 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:20,559 So underneath the list properties we have the List Detector and if we just move this. 44 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,440 Uh, this blue dot on the slider from left to right one position. 45 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,000 You'll see that that List Zone has now been broken up into three separate parts. 46 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,759 So when I take a look at the HTML preview of this page... 47 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,280 We will see that I have three separate list items that make up the entirety of that list. 48 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,080 The other zones have not yet been tagged as lists. 49 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:47,279 So that's why they're sort of rendering in this way where they're just uh wrapped up in a text zone. 50 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:52,158 And they all just kind of turn into a strange run-on sentence. So we're gonna have to touch those up as well 51 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,399 So that's how we would deal with a very simple standard list. 52 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,439 Another thing to keep in mind when you're dealing with lists... 53 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:03,119 If you for whatever reason cannot get the list to detect properly 54 00:04:03,519 --> 00:04:07,839 You have the ability to set the amount of list items you would like in that list 55 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:15,359 manually. So there's a little text field down here which contains a number based on how many list items the list detector was able to 56 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,639 find, you're still able to change the amount of list items 57 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:23,358 by using the arrow keys or typing in the manual the number manually that you would like to add. 58 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:28,239 So if there is a sort of a list that's not behaving for whatever reason, you can still 59 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,079 force the correct amount of list items and then you can grab the 60 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:39,280 list bars (these little divider lines here) and you can move them up and down accordingly to make sure that the data is placed 61 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,680 inside the individual list item. 62 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:50,079 Another great thing about this new List Detection tool is the ability to grab the entire list zone and move it around the page 63 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:57,440 as needed. If you remember, before we had all of the text zones wrapped inside of the list zone and as you moved one zone 64 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,280 nothing else would move with it. 65 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:03,199 So now if you have an instance where your list is very tightly spaced and perhaps the 66 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,759 the actual list items are just being uh... 67 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:09,280 The list detection lines are just a little bit too high or a little bit too low, 68 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,120 you can now just grab the entire list and move it down to cover 69 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:19,999 the list appropriately so that all of your items are making it in between the corresponding divider lines. 70 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:26,479 So that's a nice feature. You're not having to deal with so many zones anymore. You're not having all those layering issues. You simply just 71 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:30,478 have these divider lines which can be adjusted and moved around the page. 72 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,999 So that's a very simple three-item list just using bullet points. 73 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:42,399 We have another list here. And this is a list using numbers for the list labels. 74 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,560 And I get, I get a lot of questions about ordered lists. 75 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,479 And what the difference is in terms of how do we remediate them? 76 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,639 And how does it behave in a PDF document? 77 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:55,280 This is a question that comes up all the time. 78 00:05:55,840 --> 00:06:01,119 So if you were ever wondering about what the difference between an ordered or an unordered list is, don't feel bad. 79 00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:05,839 Everyone asks all the time. So it's the same process where we hit "L" on our keyboard 80 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,600 I'll remind you of the keyboard shortcut to set the zone type to list. 81 00:06:10,479 --> 00:06:16,719 By just tapping "L" while you have that zone selected and we have the green bar again that comes down the left-hand side. 82 00:06:17,039 --> 00:06:23,199 If I just place that on top of the numbers and I use the List Detector again, just moving it over one slot... 83 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,319 It looks like I've moved the green bar too far to the right. So I'm going to try that again. 84 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,600 Okay, that worked perfectly. I had the 85 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:33,839 the green bar was just missing the number slightly. 86 00:06:33,919 --> 00:06:35,919 So I had to just make a slight adjustment there. 87 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,000 And then trying it again, was able to fix that correct or was able to make that correction. 88 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,680 So 89 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,519 Everything here is just the same as what we've done up here. So when I look at the preview... 90 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:54,818 What we see, is currently there are three bullet points and then the actual numbers are included in the individual 91 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,479 list item. 92 00:06:56,479 --> 00:07:01,279 Now this is some this is an aesthetic of HTML the way that HTML renders this data. 93 00:07:01,759 --> 00:07:04,159 It's something I'm asked about on a regular basis... 94 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:10,319 So keep in mind when you're remediating lists if you are ultimately going to export the document as a PDF, 95 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,919 you do not know you do not have to worry about this next step. 96 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,759 By setting the list to an ordered list rather than the default setting (which is just an unordered list) 97 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,319 so if you're exporting it to PDF, 98 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:28,160 everything else that I'm saying here is really just an extra step that has no... ultimately no payoff for you. 99 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,880 So you're just doing extra work. It's not going to change anything about the exported PDF. 100 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,160 But if you want to change it to an ordered list... 101 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,039 What you can do is if you just tap the radio button here for ordered... 102 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,999 That's going to give you a drop-down that will appear below and this is very similar to the old List Detector. 103 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,500 For anyone that remembers the the old technology... 104 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,840 When I hit the drop-down menu, and I change it to numbers that is going to change the style type. 105 00:07:54,240 --> 00:08:00,400 Only as it's represented in the HTML preview and if we were to export this document at has HTML. 106 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:02,879 So when I look at the preview again... 107 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,280 Here I have 108 00:08:05,599 --> 00:08:12,479 preset list labels, which are one, two, and three, and then I still have the one, two, and three inside of the list item. 109 00:08:12,479 --> 00:08:17,839 So we have this duplicated look which is sort of odd to look at. And again, it's something that I'm asked about all the time 110 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:24,160 So if if you are struggling with this I'm gonna show you right now the way that we can resolve this issue. 111 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:30,079 So, part of the problem is is that we're just not detecting these numbers as the list labels. 112 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,240 So what we can do to make sure that we're 113 00:08:32,940 --> 00:08:37,519 absolutely going to detect these as the list labels is we're going to choose the... 114 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:44,159 We're going to select the list and then at the bottom here underneath List Detector. We're going to press the show labels button. 115 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,160 That's a little check box there. 116 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:54,160 So if I select that I can then individually select the individual list item and I can choose to turn on the list label. 117 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:58,320 Turn it on or off into the individual list items. 118 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,920 so 119 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:00,959 if I... 120 00:09:00,959 --> 00:09:05,439 If I just double-click inside of these zones, I can turn on the list labels. 121 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:13,759 And then you'll see that there's now if I zoom in slightly more you'll see that there's these sort of checkered outline boxes 122 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:19,279 So this is where Equidox is looking for that list label. We can move these around. 123 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:22,399 We can resize them using the height and width. 124 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,640 So if I shrink down these actual list labels to the appropriate size. 125 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,659 And just make sure that they're layered on top of the actual numbers themselves... 126 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:39,039 That's going to help Equidox. Just determine that those numbers are in fact the list labels. I mean it does not need to then apply 127 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:42,959 Its own sort of HTML list labels that we are used to seeing. 128 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,880 So if I make those quick corrections, and if I just refresh the preview 129 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:53,838 you'll see now I don't have that duplicated number. I just have the one, two, and three and then straight into the actual list item. 130 00:09:54,160 --> 00:10:00,880 So that's how you would correct those types of errors where you might have a list that wasn't actually created using list styles. 131 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,959 Maybe someone just typed the letter "a" with a period and started typing after that... 132 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,039 And created a very long list that way. 133 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,760 If you're not able to detect those list labels, 134 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:17,839 you can still manually locate them using that workflow of turning on the list label button. 135 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:24,959 And then individually selecting the individual items by double-clicking inside of them and then turning on the list label 136 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,560 for that specific item and then just making sure that it's layered on top. 137 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,519 So that's a question that I'm frequently asked and I hope that clears up some questions 138 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,320 ahead of time if anyone was ever wondering about that. 139 00:10:36,959 --> 00:10:39,999 We hope to avoid those situations, whenever possible. 140 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:47,359 And like I said before, this is only for instances where you're exporting to HTML if you're exporting to PDF 141 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,120 None of this is going to have an impact on that exported PDF file. 142 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:57,519 You can simply just use the Detection tool and even if you see the duplicated list labels on the HTML preview. 143 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,760 You can just ignore it when it gets exported a PDF. Everything is going to come out correctly. 144 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,240 Okay, so 145 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:10,159 the real reason we're here today is to talk more about nested lists because nested lists are much more complex. 146 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,079 Or they used to be at least... 147 00:11:12,079 --> 00:11:18,399 Because of the just the tedious nature of them of having to identify individual lists inside of list items 148 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,459 which make up a grander list so with our new technology which leverages 149 00:11:24,079 --> 00:11:26,079 machine learning and computer vision. 150 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,679 We have a much better way of detecting nested lists automatically. 151 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,099 So our data scientists have been working very hard training models on how to identify 152 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:43,919 where these nests are and how do we place them inside of the parent list item, and then obviously grouping everything together as one 153 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,519 grand list. 154 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:48,319 So what we do now to detect lists 155 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:53,919 much much easier than ever before... if I just tap "L" on my keyboard to change the zone type to list... 156 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,919 If I move the List Detector of the slider... if I move this over... 157 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:04,559 Maybe I'll try a setting of two in this case. You'll see that it's automatically identified that the main list items. 158 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,399 There's two main items. 159 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:11,759 The top and bottom, which are broken up by this divider bar that you can see and then each one of those list items. 160 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:16,638 You have a separate list which are each broken into three separate list items. 161 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,039 So all of that happened by simply moving the List Detector from left to right. 162 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,800 Just two slots and it takes just a couple of seconds. 163 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,679 And you'll see that we have a perfectly generated HTML list. 164 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,320 And we have not had to 165 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,879 do any sort of layering of different zones. We've not had to build it from the inside out 166 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,440 We simply place a zone over the entire list, 167 00:12:40,079 --> 00:12:45,279 and then we press the... or we use the List Detector to do all of that heavy lifting for us. 168 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,279 So that's how easy it is now in Equidox to work with nested lists. 169 00:12:49,839 --> 00:12:52,958 You know, dramatic change to what we were doing before. 170 00:12:53,839 --> 00:12:57,839 And if you've ever done this manually in a tool like perhaps Adobe Acrobat, 171 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,160 you'll know that nested lists are just very tedious and they take a long time... 172 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,800 and a lot of patience. 173 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:10,559 So that's a pretty simple page with just a couple of list examples i'm going to move over to the next page. 174 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,079 Where we actually have a more a more complicated nested list. 175 00:13:14,959 --> 00:13:22,078 We have a much larger list. There's tons of list items. We've got about three layers of nesting in this this is something that's more 176 00:13:22,620 --> 00:13:24,639 complicated but, you know, 177 00:13:24,959 --> 00:13:28,799 if you were doing this the old way or if you're trying to do this manually you could easily spend, 178 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,999 you know, a half an hour doing this in Adobe Acrobat, but with Equidox, all we're doing is the same thing. 179 00:13:34,079 --> 00:13:38,079 We're pressing"L" and I'm going to move that List Detector over about four slots. 180 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,760 So what we're doing is just changing sort of the algorithm and how focused it's detecting the data. 181 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,239 So the more you move it over that's typically going to give you a better result for these 182 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:55,839 more densely and more complicated nested lists. So you can choose this setting (there's five separate settings one, two, three 183 00:13:55,839 --> 00:14:01,039 four and five) you can kind of experiment with them and figure out what's going to work for your specific nested list. 184 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,680 But in this case, I believe four is correct. And when I take a look at the actual 185 00:14:06,639 --> 00:14:10,879 list that it's created automatically here. Everything looks nice and clean. So 186 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:15,839 I've literally moved that from left to right, it took a couple of seconds. When I press the preview button 187 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:22,000 we have a perfect nested list automatically created for us and I haven't had to touch any individual item. 188 00:14:22,079 --> 00:14:24,079 I haven't had to touch an individual label. 189 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:27,279 I've simply moved the Detector from left to right. 190 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:35,199 So very simple stuff there. You know, nested lists, previously were one of the more tedious... complicated... 191 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:39,999 Something that, you know, a new user might have to ask for help on. 192 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,719 But now you can see that just about anyone can be trained to handle nested lists in Equidox. 193 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,519 It's just a matter of moving that Fetector from left to right and Equidox does it all for you. 194 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:52,320 Okay, so 195 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,479 I want to take a look here at the next page which has a few more examples on it. 196 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,360 That might get a little bit more complicated. 197 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,799 So, list merges are something that we are often asked about as well. So 198 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:11,839 if you have an instance where, this could be any number of reasons why this would occur, but you have a list 199 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,399 and then the actual list is disrupted by something (perhaps it's a break in the column)... 200 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,240 Maybe it picks up on the next column. Maybe it's a page break... 201 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,999 so the list ends at one page and continues on to the next... 202 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:31,599 Maybe there's an image inserted in between two lists and you have to sort of merge the list together around them. 203 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:37,039 So the way that we do this now is just a little bit different our list... or our merge feature. 204 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:41,279 that we have added recently in our most recent major major build 205 00:15:42,079 --> 00:15:44,638 has some new functionality to it that really helps 206 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,680 to sort of work around 207 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:54,078 PDFs that contain a lot of barriers where... whether it be images or page breaks or whatever... 208 00:15:54,079 --> 00:15:57,839 It might be you can still merge to a target zone. 209 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:04,659 Um, so to make it a lot easier now instead of having to, you know, make any sort of post export touch-ups... 210 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,040 So now what we're doing is we're 211 00:16:07,339 --> 00:16:09,599 still remediating these lists as normal. 212 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:14,239 So I'm just going to tap the "L" on my keyboard and I'm just going to move it over slightly and 213 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:16,959 move the Detector from left to right. 214 00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:21,839 And my internet might be a little slow... there we go. 215 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,599 And I'll do the same thing here where I'm just going to move the Detector from left to right... 216 00:16:28,959 --> 00:16:35,219 And that looks pretty good. So I have two lists created with three items. When I look at the preview, 217 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:42,000 you'll see I have my top set of list items and I have my continuation of that list down here. 218 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,519 But it's being disrupted by that image. Well, I don't want that to happen. 219 00:16:46,079 --> 00:16:50,239 So I want to make sure that these are going to be grouped together as two, or as a single list. 220 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,479 Even though we have two separate lists here visually appearing on the page. 221 00:16:54,959 --> 00:17:00,638 So what I'll do is I'll select the second list here and I will now turn on the merge button. 222 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,880 So I'll press that merge checkbox right there. 223 00:17:03,199 --> 00:17:06,959 Which is available on most of the zone types for text and headings and things like that. 224 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,520 So once you press that merge checkbox, 225 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:15,519 a new feature will appear underneath. So once you've checked merge, it'll now ask you "with 226 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,799 what?" and then you can choose a list zone on this page. 227 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:25,280 And when you choose that a new drop-down will appear. And it's now the zone... 228 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:30,639 And this drop-down will populate a list of feasible merge candidates. 229 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:36,559 So since I only have one other list on this page my drop-down menu here is just a 230 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:40,799 single zone that I can select. So when I select that zone 231 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:48,960 It's going to merge this zone with that zone since this is the target zone that I've identified during that merge selection. process 232 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,840 So when I preview this... 233 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:57,039 You will see that I now have a single list that has been joined together through that merge. 234 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,199 And then the image will fall in the reading order after that list. 235 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,480 So that is how we are now merging lists together and this allows you to merge 236 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,960 to any target zone. So if your list 237 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,559 Is maybe it's a magazine article and you have a list... 238 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:22,319 and then you have two pages of just advertisements or stock images and then two or three pages later your list continues on 239 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,080 You can 240 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,840 create those two lists separately, and then you can merge the two together. 241 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,599 Even across multiple pages. So the way that that would work, 242 00:18:31,679 --> 00:18:39,359 just for example's sake, is if you choose to merge to a list zone on-page and then a little dot dot dot 243 00:18:39,679 --> 00:18:45,999 It'll then give you the... ask you the same question of page and then you have a drop-down menu. You can select 244 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:49,599 any number of any of the pages that contain lists. 245 00:18:49,919 --> 00:18:55,839 So once you select a page, you'll then have a drop-down menu, and these are all the lists that are available to merge to 246 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,160 on page one. 247 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,479 So that's how you can merge to target zones. 248 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,959 Identifying which page it's on 249 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:07,919 and which zone you would like to merge to and Equidox will do all of the hard work for you. 250 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:14,879 So, one other question that we are asked a lot is about when you see this drop-down menu 251 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,799 you'll notice that some of the 252 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:22,959 the naming conventions are a little bit strange. List 23, list 13, page 1 zone 6... 253 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:30,880 These are just automatically generated names by Equidox either when the document was imported or when the zone type was changed. 254 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:37,839 So if you ever are curious about this, what you can do is, if you if you'd like to merge to a target zone... 255 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,600 And you want to make sure that you're definitely merging to the correct one... 256 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:47,280 What you can do is, you can actually name that zone something different. So the zone name is up here at the very top, 257 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,679 So when you change the zone name, you can say, you know "merge to me." 258 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,499 You can type in whatever you would like. This does not impact the exported file whatsoever. 259 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:04,879 This is simply for your internal sort of process while you're remediating the document to help you make sure that you are 260 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,520 linking to the correct zone or merging to the correct zone, I should say. 261 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,880 So, when you hit the drop-down menu again... 262 00:20:13,039 --> 00:20:16,959 If I go "merge to list zone" on this page when I hit the drop-down 263 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:19,039 You'll see no longer do I have that strange 264 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,999 Name of that zone, It now says "merge to me." 265 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:28,400 So you're able to just identify it much more easily when you change the zone name of that specific zone you would like to merge 266 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,640 to by just typing in a new name for that zone at the very top while you have that 267 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:39,119 zone selected. So you can name that whatever you would like to just uniquely identify it, to make sure that, 268 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:44,559 you are in fact merging to the correct page, and the same can be said for text zones as well. 269 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,559 Keep that in mind, you know, not every element in a PDF is a list... 270 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,399 So if you have 50 different text zones on a page and you want to make sure that you're merging to the correct one, 271 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,240 that's a really helpful feature, to be able to change that zone name. 272 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,919 To make it obvious to you as the remediator that you are, in fact, merging to the correct zone. 273 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:11,359 So keep that in mind if you have a lot of list merges to handle, you can change that zone name. 274 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:13,200 That's something that is... 275 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,200 Can be very very helpful. 276 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,320 Okay, so 277 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:24,080 again, sometimes we have lists without style. Meaning that someone didn't actually create 278 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,720 a list with the... 279 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,480 with... 280 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,959 Using the list styling, like in Microsoft Word. 281 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:36,400 For example, if you choose from the top menu, the top ribbon, the bullet points or the numbering system... 282 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,919 Someone might literally just type in "a" or they might type a dash and then just start typing text after that... 283 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:47,039 Which can be sometimes difficult for list detection to actually pick up. 284 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,659 So this is just a reminder that if you ever run across those instances... 285 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:58,879 You can certainly just change the number of list items manually by typing in three or using the arrow buttons. 286 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:05,519 And then you can place these accordingly by dragging them around. So keep that in mind, occasionally you'll have, 287 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,679 you know, lists can be tricky. Just depending on how they're designed. 288 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,799 But you have plenty of tools at your fingertips with Equidox, whether it be the automated List Detector, 289 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:19,199 which will work for you in probably 99 of cases. 290 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,799 But, you know, occasionally you'll run across a very poorly designed list... 291 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:28,559 Or someone was just kind of typing away and they were using little dash marks instead of actually using list styles. 292 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,960 If your detection is not perfect, 293 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:38,240 You can always just force that amount of list items into that specific list and then move around your list items... 294 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,740 the list divider bars accordingly. 295 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:47,760 Okay. So, we're doing pretty well here. We're gonna we got a couple more examples and we got a few minutes left. 296 00:22:47,919 --> 00:22:49,919 So we're right on track, I think. 297 00:22:50,159 --> 00:22:52,799 And, so here's a list with 298 00:22:53,679 --> 00:22:57,439 three separate items. But these lists actually contain links, as you can see. 299 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,319 So when you have a list that contains links, that's pretty common, I feel. 300 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:07,439 What you can do is, you don't really have to do anything differently because these links were embedded in the document. 301 00:23:07,679 --> 00:23:10,719 So Equidox is actually able to identify them as links. 302 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:17,039 You can see they all have their own individual zone placed on top of them. So when you use the List Detector... 303 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:24,799 If you move the bar over, typically a setting of two when you have a standard list that contains links, I found that the second... 304 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:28,079 The second setting is most accurate. 305 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,760 When you look at the preview using this method, 306 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,840 you will see that we have the list 307 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:43,919 items detected, and they also contain those links, which you can click on and navigate to. 308 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,559 If you'd like to just verify that they are in fact working.. 309 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:52,960 You can also select the individual links and just double-check the anchor. But as I said before, if the link is embedded, 310 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,520 you're not going to have that issue. 311 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,760 You know, typically the anchor point, assuming that it's accurately... 312 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,320 was accurately embedded in the document, 313 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:06,559 everything will just be taken care of by just simply importing it. And then once you mark it as a list, 314 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,520 those anchors those URLs or whatever... 315 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:16,639 They might be... those links are going to stay active within uh enclosed in the individual list item. 316 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:21,760 Now if you have a list that you don't have an embedded link in the document... 317 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,080 Let's say for example, if you just, if we get rid of that link, for example... 318 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,559 If you want to still manually create a link... 319 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,839 Maybe it's like a directory or something like that, where it's a list of email addresses or something... 320 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,059 You can still turn those into actual email addresses. 321 00:24:37,679 --> 00:24:39,600 Or URLs. Whatever it may be. 322 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,640 You simply just can manually create that link zone. And then you can type in the anchor point that you would like. 323 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:49,760 So if we just pretend that (although it's google.com) if we want it to be an email address, for example... 324 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,760 if I type in "mailto" 325 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,860 so 326 00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:57,199 M-a-i-l-t-o and then a colon and then I can type in an email address... 327 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,480 So if I just type in onixnet.com... 328 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760 When I look at the preview 329 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,039 I will still have that that that text representing that it's a google link, but when I click on it... 330 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,840 it's actually going to open up my email and compose an email to someone. So 331 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:19,679 that's how that can work. If you don't have an embedded link, you can still place them inside of list items. 332 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,840 It's just that extra step of creating the linked zone and manually typing in the link... snchor.... 333 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,400 where you would like that link to be directed to. 334 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:30,640 So "mailto" is a common one. 335 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:36,179 If it's an email address that you would like to open up... and then also if it's a web address your typical HTTPS 336 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:40,640 Colon, slash, and then the web address to follow after that. 337 00:25:41,679 --> 00:25:48,319 If you have a link to for example, like a table of contents, your anchor point should start with 338 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,480 hashtag, page, underscore. 339 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,559 Just keep that in mind when you're dealing with lists that contain links. 340 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,759 Your anchor point and the appropriate prefix for that type of link. 341 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:06,879 Okay, so we have one other example here that I wanted to look at, and this is an example of how you can identify.... 342 00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:14,559 You can still utilize the custom zone source, which many of you may be familiar with if you've used Equidox for a while. 343 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:19,279 Here's an example of where we have a glaring misspelling in the list item. 344 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:26,159 So since this is a PDF and this version is sort of locked. We're not here to edit this visually on the.. 345 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,600 um 346 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,640 on the... 347 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,559 on the PDF itself 348 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,278 But to make sure that a screen reader 349 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000 is not going to inaccurately read this 350 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:42,880 to someone that might not be able to see that. This is clearly a glaring misspelled word. It says "costume" instead of "custom." 351 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,799 What we can do is still tag it as a list as normal... 352 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:54,000 And then once I've done that I can double click inside the individual list items.... and if I go to the source... 353 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,559 I can choose "custom" 354 00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:58,400 And I can type in 355 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,520 "custom... 356 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,559 list.. 357 00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:01,919 item one.." 358 00:27:01,919 --> 00:27:09,839 Instead of it the glaring misspelling of "costume list item one." So for anyone that's using this interacting with this document with a screen reader... 359 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,439 Those types of misspellings can create a lot of confusion. 360 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,199 And you have the ability in Equidox to make sure that the screen reader is not going to 361 00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:19,839 inaccurately convey a clearly misspelled word. 362 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,959 You can go in there and make that change and type it into the custom field and when you look at the preview. 363 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:31,999 You will see that instead of it saying "costume list item one" it now says "custom list item one" and then list item two 364 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,039 I have not yet changed.. 365 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:40,239 But I can do that very quickly. Again, just by double-clicking inside the list item, selecting custom, and then going to typing in 366 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,059 "Custom list item two," and then refreshing the preview. 367 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,999 I will see that I in fact have corrected that spelling now. 368 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,880 Like I said before, it's not going to visually update the PDF. We didn't generate this PDF. 369 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,960 We have just been asked to remediate it. 370 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,319 So that's not really our fault that someone made a glaring misspelling on that PDF document. 371 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,199 But what we can certainly do is fix it within the tagged reading order to make sure that 372 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,679 individual list, and that individual list item, is going to be read correctly 373 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,679 through that screen reader. 374 00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:19,278 So that's how we can use the custom zone source 375 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,699 inside of the individual list items to make those types of corrections. 376 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,159 You have that flexibility to insert into this text field, whatever you would like 377 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:35,279 that individual list item to read. And again, you just double-click inside the individual list item to identify it... 378 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:41,119 You'll see that it turns a shade of blue instead of pink and that lets you interact with that individual list item. 379 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:46,319 Okay, so, we are just about at the 2:30 mark. 380 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,520 Tammy, I don't know if there's anything that you wanted to finish up with or follow or if there was any, 381 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,279 you know, common question that was asked multiple times in the Q&A. 382 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,600 Tammy: Actually, um 383 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,799 Thank you, Dan. 384 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:04,879 We only had a couple of questions. One of which was was whether or not this was going to be recorded... and yes it is. 385 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,480 I will be sending that around to everyone who registered. It'll probably take a day or two. I've got to get it 386 00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:13,760 captioned... But as soon as that happens, 387 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:20,000 everyone will get a copy so you can review it or share it with anyone else that you work with that might be interested. 388 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:25,839 The only other question, you answered within the demonstration, so I think we are good. 389 00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:30,399 But of course if anyone has any follow-up questions, you can certainly email them to us. 390 00:29:31,179 --> 00:29:32,940 EquidoxSales@onixnet.com 391 00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:34,940 or from the app. 392 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:39,439 Dan: Great thank you very much, and it's right at 2:30, so 393 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,080 we will be respectful of everyone's time... 394 00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:44,719 And again just to reiterate, please feel free to reach out 395 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,059 if you have any individual questions or individual 396 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,279 use cases that you would like to discuss. I'm happy to work with you to 397 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,279 figure out the best workflow and make sure that you're using theList Detector correctly. 398 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,679 So thank you very much, everyone. I'm going to stop sharing and we can end the Webinar. Tammy: I do have one more thing 399 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,239 Dan, I wanted to let everyone know that we will be 400 00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:04,879 doing another webinar to cover the new 401 00:30:05,679 --> 00:30:07,200 Table Detector 402 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,559 that's just been rolled out. And that will be happening in a couple of weeks. 403 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,360 So all of you who are on this registration list 404 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,079 will be getting an invitation to that, as well. 405 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,719 Dan: Perfect. Thank you for reminding me of that. So, yep, looking forward to that next demonstration... 406 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:24,499 And yeah, we will we'll see and chat with everyone soon. Thanks, everyone!